Joaquin Phoenix "seemed to me like an agent of chaos, and I really did feel like the person who does take this role on, you have to have that inside," the director says of his star, who delved into the role by perfecting the joyless giggle on his couch.
Making of 'Joker': How Todd Phillips' "Bold Swing" Became a Study in Madness
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December 27, 2019
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